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8/15/14 11:51 pm - strahlend31

Every death of personal significance to me has happened during the summer. First my grandmother, July of 1990. Then my grandfather in July of 2012. Then my most beloved cat Sophie in July of 2013. Now my Mother in August of 2014.

I hate the summer. I hate what it does to me. I hate what it takes from me.


2/3/11 12:36 pm - saskiasmith - New Summer SAD Treatment Possibilities

Hi guys!

I'm not sure if everyone here follows the Ning group I moderate, so thought I'd post this info :) 

I've been in touch with a scientist who successfully treated one man last summer with low doses of melatonin!  For more information and links to the PDFs that work go to: 


I sent the following as a broadcast message today:

Hello Members!

Dr. Lewy emailed me two PDFs from the public domain which include more detail about the research.  



For those of us interested in getting treatment based on this experiment: we are not going to receive specific recommendations directly from him--due to liability he is unable to do this--so we'll need to work with what is published here and with our own doctors. Luckily, I'm consulting with my doctor and am willing to email everyone with the process I go through and how my treatment plan is going to be determined--I strongly encourage everyone interested in trying this out do so with the aid of a physician.

Additionally, Dr. Lewy is willing to consult with any of your doctors who may have questions!! You will need to have your doctor email me at: seasonalsad@gmail.com and I will put them in touch with him.  

To give you an idea of treatment (aka our "self-experiment") will involve:

The basics involve taking a very low dose melatonin pill. Dr. Lewy mentioned the brand used in the experiment was Sundown and is found on Amazon. He did not specifically say this is what he used, but it's what I found on Amazon:


You might want to wait until you have heard back from me or determined a protocol with your doctor before actually ordering anything. I'm just giving you an example.

The most important step is that you'll need to determine the correct time of day to take your pill and TAKE IT RELIGIOUSLY. He said this is of the utmost importance. You will need to start several months BEFORE your depressive symptoms generally occur. If you read through the experiment he did, you'll notice the subject, located in Oregon, started about three months before summertime and that he took his pill at 4pm and then after mid-summer at 7pm.

Fine tuning when you take your pill will be very important, and it's something I'm going to discuss with my doctor before starting. I am currently monitoring my sleep patterns, and I'll email everyone more about this soon.

For anyone interested in partaking in this self-experimentation, it would be useful for me to receive some feedback as to if you felt the treatment worked for you or not. I'll have to think of some way to record this--ideas? I suppose I could also set up a separate forum for people to discuss this--and an anonymous poll at the end of the year for feedback perhaps.

I'll get back to everyone once I have more information about how I determine my own protocol, which may in turn help give your doctor some tips in advising you.

This is all very exciting and I look forward to seeing if this helps people!

6/21/10 11:59 am - thisdaydreamer - Because I know I'm not the only one who needs this now

*turn up the fan speed and looks for cold pictures*

Anyone else looking for reminders of what February feels like? I was hobbling around on crutches this past winter and I STILL miss it damn it!

2/10/10 10:17 am - 403 - Moving to reduce symptoms: Does it really work?

Hi everyone, I'm new here.

I'm a summertime SAD sufferer living in Phoenix, AZ. As one might guess, I didn't choose to move here, and it's not working out. I've got an opportunity to move to Boston, MA, where stepping outside isn't blindingly bright, and the heat stays (comparatively) moderate. But, I'm concerned that when I move to someplace with a real winter, I might develop "ordinary" wintertime SAD symptoms either instead or as well.

So, a question to those of you who've moved: Does it really work?

7/29/09 07:53 am - hazelwindows - Ya, it's hot.

It was up to 105 degrees here yesterday. Half the house was an oven. The other half of the house was an airless, stuffy closet. Outside it was just like a sauna inside a very brightly burning building.

It's supposed to be 104 today.

Just needed to witness here in case things get any worse.

7/28/09 12:44 pm - strahlend31 - heat wave

Well my friends, in this neck of the woods we've reached the triple digets. Even with two air conditioners and four fans the house has been getting really hot and uncomfortable. The typical symptoms are upon me. Lethargy, unable to think clearly, feeling easily overwhelmed, tired, and the oppressive heaviness that comes with knowing that there is no escape, no solution, nothing to do but wait days, weeks, whatever for this to pass. Until then I'm feeling like a shadow of myself. I lay around drinking ice water, reading by dim lights in front of a fan trying to avoid everything not absolutely necessary. I haven't been exercising because of the lethargy and the lack of desire to do anything that would increase the hot and sweaty factor. I don't feel able to concentrate on anything for very long. I wish I could enjoy more of my summer break from school and the free time this gives me with the kid-o, but that's just not happening. No art projects, no crafting, no cleaning, no organizing, nothing.... I just can't. I've even been avoiding my computer for the most part lately... I just can't seem to manage to focus long enough or generate interest enough to pay attention to anything. I'm utilizing all the tricks and techniques I can think of to try to get through this... but it's not enough to make me feel functional. I'm tired of feeling uncomfortable and cranky.
I usually try to post things that are helpful or informative here, but I'm in the grip of what this whole community is about and I'm just posting to share and commiserate this time.

How are you guys feeling lately? 

7/26/09 04:37 pm - saskiasmith - New Summer SAD article

First of all I know there are a lot of Northwesterners on this site so I want to send my condolences on the huge heat wave you have right now :-P I am secretly glad I did not plan my vacation up there for July as usual, heh! 

Secondly if you hadn't heard there is another article out by ABCNews.com on Summer SAD (I am in the interview--I gave them lots of good material, most of which they completely ignored, oh wel!).  I'm glad for the spolight it at least puts on the factor of light.  Right now, however, I'm more concerned with the heat.....someone hand me raincloud, please!


Hope everyone is doing well.

6/16/09 02:12 pm - strahlend31

Today I received an email from Saskia letting me know that her website has moved. I'm going to change the posted link but also wanted to take this opportunity to remind everyone that her summer SAD site is an invaluable resource. Check it out!


6/1/09 03:50 pm - rosewelsh - Tips for Summer Depression


School’s out. It’s hot. And you’re not having any fun.
By R. Morgan Griffin
WebMD Medical Reference


Ah, the joys of summer. The withering heat. School vacations, when your kids give you minute-to-minute updates on their boredom levels. Isn’t summer supposed to be fun and relaxing? If you’ve got summer depression, it isn’t.

For some people, summer depression has a biological cause, says Ian A. Cook, MD, the director of the Depression Research Program at UCLA. For others, the particular stresses of summer can pile up and make them feel miserable.

What makes depression in summer especially hard is that you feel like you’re supposed to be having a great time. Everyone else seems so happy splashing in the water and sweating in their lawn chairs. So why can’t you? And more importantly, what can you do to make this summer easier? Here’s what you need to know about summer depression.

Understanding Summer Depression

Why do some people feel more depressed in summer? Here’s a rundown of reasons



4/9/09 02:06 pm - whiskeylight - Planning Ahead

We have had an unusually warm and snowless winter, but are now finally getting some winter weather. In fact, we just had to get more firewood. Right now I am trying to just enjoy it and not let the coming summer get me down before I actually have to live with it.

I get agitated when people start carrying on about how great it is that winter is almost over. Being in gardening groups online doesn't  help, but I like gardening and plants, I just try to limit any activities to late evening.

The truth is I even like Spring. Of course, our springs are usually snowy and rainy which makes them very nice, but I also like seeing things bloom and come to life. If it didn't mean that summer was coming I would really look forward to spring.  I like fall and winter more, but I enjoy the changing of seasons and variety.

So, right now while I feel good and can think clearly I am trying to think of anything that will make it easier on me this year. I know I want to start taking my supplements ahead of time. I'm sure there are other things that would be helpful.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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